Adrian Peterson of the Minnesota Vikings was notified today that he has been suspended without pay for at least the remainder of the 2014 NFL season, and will not be considered for reinstatement before April 15, for violating the NFL Personal Conduct Policy in an incident of abusive discipline that he inflicted on his four-year-old son last May. Peterson pled no contest on November 4 in state court in Montgomery County, Texas to reckless assault of the child.
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And to answer the question someone had about how to handle behaviors without beating or timeout…look up Skinner’s theory on conditioning and applying positive/negative reinforcement. It’s not a matter of beat or time out…there is an inbetween lol.
I modify behavior for a living so yes, behaviors can be modified without physical discipline. Spankings don’t always work either. I see the same kids who get their tails beat up still acting up in stores along side the kids who have time out (that was me…no spanking would stop me hehehe). So idk I’m torn. I spanked my daughter maybe 3 times in her 3 years of life and she’s afraid to move unless I say so. And just because we survived what we went through doesn’t necessarily make it “right.” Just my opinion…but different things work for different folks I guess.
FUNNY AND THE BUTT WILL SURVIVE !!
I be in them butts….wait a minute…that sounds sick..I meant I be tearing butts up…wait that’s kinda sick too…I’ll whoop a butt!!!
Spare the rod spoil the child…
Very true.
Celeste There is a difference between abuse and discipline, sadly some don’t know the difference
And no Elizabeth discipline doesn’t always mean a whoopin.
But clearly much of what is happening now isn’t working.
Yes some are that is why I work with the school systems to hear and be there for the children with no one to speak to their needs with out violence being their reward for a need to be seen and heard
So discipline always have to be a whooping? Really? As adults what does that say about us? Our parenting skills? Hmmmmmmm it can work both ways. They are not raising themselves. Well, some are.
Yes there is a balance to be reached..but first that takes dialog, and starting discipline with words at an earlier age, whooping’ is a form of disabling but beating to blood is abuse I know I lived it, skin looking like the busted flesh of the girl in the exorcist, clothes sticking to my back, stripped down to nakedness and beat until she got tired, blood and bruises everywhere including my face, beating with what ever was. Handy, iron pans race car tracks, boards, belts, switches, bats, and one time if my sister had not stepped in a sludge hammer, broke the door down with it to get to me….. it can go to far..bottom line, balance and it must be balance with knowledge Wan Sheldon
I’ve seen the results of some of this “new technique” parenting. And sadly we have a generation of some of the most disrespectful and LOST kids.
This timeout mess got kids in stores throwing temper tantrums, talking back, cussing, interacting with grown folks any kind of way, pregnancy out the wazoo, prisons filled with our young men.
And I absolutely believe a huge percentage of this is a result of lack if discipline. Soooo… okay yall think a whoopin is abuse, isn’t raising a negative statistic equally abusive?
End result
The majority of “WHOOPINGS” back then was abuse. So why would anyone think it is ok to do the same to children? They keep saying back in the day. Back in the day that is what it was whether we like to admit it or not
yes that’s abuse Elizabeth Kennedy
We love you too Sly. Great dialogue!!!!
My mom had 19 children. We all have the same father. I am the 18th child turning 50 tomorrow. I did not receive beatings. Maybe one pop from my mom but I saw the beatings some of my older brothers and sisters had to endure. Distributed mostly by our father. I cannot fathom ever beating my children the way they received it. Switch, extension cords. Nowadays they are hitting them with the closest objects they can reach. And no, it did not help some of my sibling. It made some of them very bitter adults. So what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander. One of my brothers said that was what he was taught and abused his daughters so bad he had them taken away. Those were not spankings way back then. Call it what you want. Abuse is more like it. We asked why, his answer, that is the way daddy beat us
I don’t think he should be suspended indefinitely – I think he may need some anger management sessions. So that he’s not disciplining in anger
But I think some times a whoopin us warranted
I am ok too and it is the handprints of life that has created the person that teaches and speaks today remember it all happens for a reason and the reason may be for him to learn a better way
I love all of YALL! great debate today!
my grandma Mildred Twyman beat our butts when we got out of line and we are ok LOL Essence MsNurse Twyman Ebony Alli Wan Sheldon Donovan Waller Dionna White Tia Twyman Meka Paramore Andre White
AMEN KINGSMEN my dad was around but not in the home my mother did the best she could with what she had… including six children and she was a widow, and no I would not give any child the horrific treatment I under went in my youth it would move people to tears, and it has when I have spoke on it …it is what she knew
I agree Celeste
Tough love does not always have to be physically painful.
SLAVE MENTALLITY. MY FINAL ANSWER….
my mom beat my tail and my dad never came around. I Love my mom and I hated my dad for years!! #ButbeatingNeverKilledMe
Because it was a whip that broke the back, a learned and passed down behavior, when something is learned it takes twice as long to unlearn and replace the first learned behavior
LOL, I agree Celeste. Yes, a swift crack was warranted every now and then to let them know just in case they got it twisted. I have two young men 28 and 20, thank you Lord. My sentiments exactly. We have options. And as I stated before if there are no others options there is a more serious problem that old school whoopings are not helping.
My children are 34, and 19 years old from the womb I seen to it that they trusted coming to me about anything one of the first things I told them both is “there are no secrets”. And they could express themselves in any manner to give their emotions room to grow, but they knew disrespect was not tolerated, if we learn to talk with our children from the start hiding nothing, if they are old enough to ask I had to be big enough to give them the answer no matter what, many times reminding them, why should you fight a battle in a war I have already won, this cut down on a lot of misbehavior, because believe it or not getting caught or in trouble is a healthy thing, my daughter stole one time at 4 years old when I found the doll I took her back to the store and told the 6 foot 8 inch security GAURD to arrest her…nuff done he played along and it scard the crap out of her…. there are ways, but a swift crack might save a life
Does it still make it right? Our children again are not us. What was done in our past who says is ok to repeat on them? So as adults we cannot think of or come up with anything else in how we discipline our children well, my momma and daddy beat me this way so this has to be the right way and only way. That just makes no sense to me. Why does it have to be a switch that can break their skin?
Thanks Sly likewise. We are all adults who can agree to disagree having a healthy conversation. It opens our eyes, as you have said, to many topics that are Considered taboo to talk about in our race
We had a peach tree in the back yard where I grew up and I use to joke that my mother rode around until she found a good beatin’ tree, those marks on the child look like the marks left after being whooped with the switches from that beatin’ tree
@Shauna Understood, look at his pics though. Yes some kids do bruise easily. Grant it. He has scabs which means he bled. Whether he bled a lot or bled a lil it does not matter. I never said he was a bad parent but as parents we must know when to much is too much. Old school does not mean it is Right. What was good for some is not good for your children. Everybody wants to keep going back in time. There are many screwed up adults walking around because of their past. I can bet on it if someone brought a child home looking like this after receiving this so called “spanking” from someone else would not feel the same way. Respectfully, my opinion
MY FIRST TRIP TO ATLANTA I THOUGHT MY MOTHER KNEW EVERY PERSON IN THE STATE BECAUSE EVERYBODY SPOKE SMILED AND TALKED AND THEIR SPEAKING WAS GENUINE, THAT IS WHERE RACE DOES COME IN WE ARE PRODUCTS OF THE HANDPRINTS THAT FORMED THE ADULTS AND A PEOPLE WE SEE TODAY…OF COURSE BEATING INTO SUBMISSION WAS A LEARNED BEHAVIOR, THAT IS A PART OF THE UNITED STATES HISTORY WHERE PEOPLE OF COLOR WERE BEATEN AND THEN TOLD THAT GOD COMMANDED IT (SPARE THE ROD SPOIL THE CHILD) IN THE SOUTH THOSE THAT REMAINED LEARNED TO STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY KNEW THERE WAS STRENGHT IN THEIR NUMBERS, AND THEY ALL UNDERSTOOD THE STRUGGLE OF THEIR NEIGHBOR…HISTORY IS THE KEY TO THIS CONVERSATION…(I RIGHT IN CAPS AT TIMES, NO ONE BE OFFENDED BY THAT FOLOSHNESS THAT CAPS MEAN YELLING I AM CALM AT THIS MOMENT)
Shauna P I was saying earlier that this is a hard a case because someone that doesn’t use any kind of force might look at all of use as a case of abuse.
Celeste Curry add G Huff Ohio’s Best Poncho Black and Elizabeth Kennedy always a great healthy debate with these follks!!!
Elizabeth I disagree. Whether or not kids Bruise easily makes a world of difference. My daughter is light skinned and just smacking her on the butt with my hand (while clothed) has left a mark on her and I in no way, shape, form or fashion abuse my child. Leaving a mark does not constitute abuse. As a parent, you definitely have to display restraint but leaving a mark does not make a person a bad parent. He used a switch. That’s old school. I don’t see a problem with it. Now had he been punching, kicking, biting or etc, then I could see calling it abuse.
Celeste Curry I agree. I like to communicate and healthy debate. we spent so many years keeping stuff trapped inside that we don’t talk much. I notice it in women a lot. when I mibed here to atlanta it was so different. people talk ALL the time and they think WE act funny if we don’t talk about what’s in our mind.
I agree.
t makes people think and carry on a legit conversation, communication is becoming a thing of the pass I am just glad people are expressing original thoughts because that boat is sailing into the horizon too…. communication and debate are a good thing… good one @Kingsmen White
Kingsmen White, this is a tough one…
Everytime I watch those episodes on Maury when the child his cussing out their parents on live tv I just be shaking my head
But trust, MENTAL HEALTH is real. Ok, this time I am really done. Enjoy the rest of your day all.
Omg, Poncho, they do not have to go into a mental hospital to get help. Some of these children are going through things they need help in coping with and just cannot do it with their parents. It is not about being crazy.
Whatever
You just said it a SPANKING.. Going to far is not a SPANKING. You allowed it to elevate to a different level. @Sly, they have moral clauses in their contact that they signed. That is the difference between them and others.
So send them to a mental hospital
Poncho, you are the adult. Get your child some help. You are the parent. If your way is not working you have to do Something else. Asking for help is such a taboo for black people. By you ignoring it then the cops will most likely have to deal with them. It may take something as simple as extra curricular activities.
I never known anybody to have problems after a spanking
I read a lot of cases of abuse and the answer usually is to take the kids away until the parent gets help but you never see them going down to their place of employment and trying to get them fired or suspended so if it is abuse the answer is to cut visitation until he gets help!
What are we suppose to do let the cop shoot them down because we’re not aloud to discipline them
It most certainly is not.
You are the Adults. Find a way. No one is saying you cannot SPANK your children. But you better sure find out what your going too far is. Your going to far as you put it, is abuse to them. I did not make the law and you Cannot get around it. Bottom line, it does not have to be used alllllllll the time. If so, then your child has a problem. Someone does. Whoever it is, get help. It is out of your control. The beatings are not helping. Houston, you have a problem.
This whole thing is about race
I’m waiting for a answer
You Still stuck on race. No, I am intelligent enough to know what abuse is. We just do not agree on it.
So how do we discipline them?
This is not the 1960’s. What was good for anyone or worked for any has Absolutely, NOTHING to do with your children.
So u saying since white America said its abuse it abuse? It’s only abuse to people who don’t spank their kids
I feel the same way Sly. No, I do not feel he should be suspended indefinitely. This is a wake up call. There are other forms of discipline.
My mother would be under the prison awaiting hell fire, those marks are nothing compared to the marks left from beatings that we called whooping in the pass generations, I’LL say this if you don’t smack the hand reaching for fire, or the hand that steals, someone else is going to smack it later and that somebody could be an Andree cop with nothing to lose but a month off with pay
Like what
I can see kids ruling her
Who AP?
As adults we should know better. We know what too far is. Do not do to your child what you will not allow someone else to do. Like G Huff said, why does everything have to be about spanking? There are other forms of discipline.
Poncho Black what should his punishment be?
G Huff Ohio’s Best what should his punishment be?
Elizabeth Kennedy so what should his punishment be??? my point is I don’t feel he should be suspended indefinitely. if that’s the case they should look up ALL the Child abuse cases in the world and FIRE all of them from their jobs also
so who is going to create a spanking meter that tells us who is in the right or in the wrong? What if your degree of spanking is still called abuse in the eyes of someone who don’t spank at all???
Cool
Like G Huff. I’m done. Please our friends??? Huhhhhhh??????
White women killed her two kids because they talk back to her because she believe in the timeout method. They never had respect for her and she lossed it
Thank you @G Huff
Sorry, regular folk do not get a pass and Neither do athletes.
Do you ever think that some of these children are a product of their environment? No, disrepect is not to be tolerated but we do not know what some of these kids have to endure behind closed doors. They are not being raised properly, they are experiencing and seeings things they should not have to on a daily basis. Kids who need help who never get the help. Kids with AHAD never gets help. Children with all types of emotional and psychological problems who get no help because the parent turns a blind eye and when the Child gets out of hand, rude, and disrespectful, flies off the handle. Smh
I’m done…
How
There are all kinds of forms of discipline besides beatings and timeout. If you can’t think of any, you don’t need to have any kids. I’ve spanked my son, but I’ve never beat him. There is a difference
So put them in timeout?
I guess you have to please your friends I get it
I don’t believe in that slave shit, beating your kids with belts and switches. Excuse my language…
Pls tell me why his son at that age looks like that. Sorry, when you go to far it will be classified as abuse.
That fine when somebody kid disrespect you don’t get mad and wondering where the parents at
Here u go
He went too far. I don’t feel sorry for him.
So AP BEAT THE CRAP OUT HIS SON NOW
I have friends of all races. What does that have to do with anything. Sorry they are many black folk who do not believe in beating the crap out of their kids by “going to far’ to get the respect they want from their children.
So if your child’s disrespect you are you going to send them to the corner?
What do u think it is?
That is not too far that is abuse. What do you think abuse is? Just that. Going to far.
No one is saying you should not discipline your children. As being your Children there should be a limit in how far you will go. Smh
She must have white friends because that not abuse he went a little to far that’s it
I want my kids to be scared to be scared to act a fool in school because of what dad might so if he catch them. I’ve seen the results of kids that have dads that don’t discipline
Why do you keep making this a gender thing? Again, let me reiterate what I said. Whether it is the mother, Father, grandmother, grandfather, aunt, uncle, cousin, or stranger, abuse is wrong period. I do not care who did it. There are plenty of fathers who abuse their kids too.
So put them in timeout
How many kids died at the hands of their mothers or been beating
It does not matter who the abuse comes from. IT IS STILL WRONG
Spanking your kids do not Leave their bodies with cuts and bruises like his Child did. I just do not get it. There has to be a limit to how far someone goes when disciplining their children. What was the stuffing his mouth about? He had to be disciplined like he disciplined his Child. He has to handle it. If anyone is spanking their children to the Point where they are leaving bruises and cuts is not a spanking. They are doing to much. This lil Boy has lil scabs on his wounds. So this equates what a spanking is suppose to look like? He went too far on a very young Child.
Women be the main ones beating the shit out their kids so quit playing
No one should be abused. They started stripping us from our rights years ago.
For what spanking his own kid
I disagree also but whether kids bruise easily or not we know the difference between discipline and Child abuse. There is no way in hell his sons body should have looked like that. Sorry. We are forgetting another aspect of this story. He STUFFED his mouth to muffle his crying. Let’s call a spade a spade. There is no way in hell his Father or anyone else is going to return my Child like that in that condition. Photos don’t lie. Nonetheless I do not feel he needs a indefinite suspensión. A year is enough time. And I am so sick of hearing that our mothers and grandparents disciplined in a certain manner. That you turned out just Fine. So what. That Child is not you and may affect him/her in a different way. Forgive and move on. And like Sly said get help
Once he accepts his punishment we have to forgive and move on. Plus he needs help but don’t take his job from him
I disagree also. People keep trying to compare this situation to the Ray Rice situation and they are polar opposites. He’s supposed to discipline his child. That’s his responsibility as a parent. The child may have had marks simply because they bruise easily. That doesn’t mean that he abused the child. Smh
I disagree, you mean we can’t raise our children any more!